Economists warn that Trump's tariffs could cause tech prices to skyrocket

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The big picture: If Trump were to implement his proposed tariffs upon becoming president again, it would significantly reshape the landscape of consumer electronics in the US. Economic policy discussions can often seem abstract, but it's important to understand the real-world consequences these tariffs could bring.

In June, sixteen Nobel Prize-winning economists signed a letter expressing concern that Donald Trump's proposals could reignite inflation, which is currently nearing the Federal Reserve's 2 percent target after surging to 9.1 percent in 2022.

They were primarily referring to his plans to impose tariffs of 10 to 20 percent on imported goods, along with a special 60 percent tariff on imports from China, aimed at encouraging the return of manufacturing to the US.

It is unclear whether manufacturers would pull up stakes and move back to the US in response, but what is certain is that these tariffs will lead to higher prices on imports, and that includes electronic products such as laptops, smartphones, monitors, desktop computers and TVs, most of which are primarily manufactured in China.

According to a recent Consumer Technology Association (CTA) report, a 10 percent global tariff combined with a 60 percent China-specific tariff could increase laptop prices by 45 percent. For instance, a laptop currently priced at $793 would cost consumers an additional $357. Premium models could see even greater increases, adding $450 for every $1,000 of current pricing.

The CTA, in partnership with Trade Partnership Worldwide (TPW), has projected significant price hikes across a wide range of products. Smartphone costs are expected to rise by 25.8 percent, while monitors are anticipated to see a 31.2 percent increase.

Game consoles, which are primarily made in China, could experience a substantial 39.9 percent jump. In contrast, desktop PCs, which rely less on Chinese manufacturing, are projected to have a more modest rise of 6 percent. The overall cost of electronics could increase by $90 billion annually, causing sales to fall undoubtedly.

The proposed tariffs could have far-reaching effects beyond higher consumer prices. The Tax Foundation estimates that a 10 percent general tariff, plus a 60 percent China tariff, could lower GDP by 0.8% and potentially cost 1.4 million full-time jobs over time.

As is typically the case when tariffs are imposed, other countries may introduce retaliatory measures, which could further impact the US economy.

Meanwhile, it is uncertain whether Trump's stated goal of bringing manufacturing back to US shores will be accomplished through tariffs. Most experts will tell you that shifting production away from China is neither simple nor quick for manufacturers. It could take years for companies to establish new facilities and supply chains in alternative countries like India, Vietnam, or Mexico.

It's important to note that Trump could impose these tariffs with little resistance, even if Congress objected. Unlike many other economic policies, a US president can implement tariffs without requiring congressional approval.

There is, of course, the possibility that the tariff proposals are part of a broader negotiating strategy – a way to create leverage in international discussions. The threat of tariffs can be used as a bargaining chip, giving the US a stronger initial position in negotiations. During his first term, Trump often used the threat of tariffs as a negotiating tool with various countries, with mixed results.

Trump's stance on tariffs may also be a political tactic. Tough trade talk resonates with certain voter groups who feel that current trade policies have hurt American workers.

It's also possible that Trump intends to impose tariffs but at lower rates than currently proposed. By citing extreme measures like 50 percent tariffs, smaller tariffs may seem more reasonable by comparison.

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It would take time to move manufacturing, but if costs were to actually go up by nearly 50%, you best believe that corporations would be fast tracking moves to other countries that are exempt from said tariffs.

That said, I think there is a near zero chance these alleged tariffs would ever be implemented at the proposed rates.
 
It would take time to move manufacturing, but if costs were to actually go up by nearly 50%, you best believe that corporations would be fast tracking moves to other countries that are exempt from said tariffs.

That said, I think there is a near zero chance these alleged tariffs would ever be implemented at the proposed rates.
Sure, Nvidia can just move from TSMC to... Oh wait.
 
I read daily articles about how Trump is dangerous and potentially the most dangerous thing that ever happened to mankind since Sabertooth Tigers in 3 languages.

I have no doubt that if I cared to read news stories in 6 languages then the number of "Trump Dangerous" articles would increase proportionally.

The amount of anti-Trump propaganda reminds one of the USSR PRAVDA and the Soviet Union.
 
I read daily articles about how Trump is dangerous and potentially the most dangerous thing that ever happened to mankind since Sabertooth Tigers in 3 languages.

I have no doubt that if I cared to read news stories in 6 languages then the number of "Trump Dangerous" articles would increase proportionally.

The amount of anti-Trump propaganda reminds one of the USSR PRAVDA and the Soviet Union.
Is it propaganda, or is it simply that a president who already tried to overthrow the government to stay in power might actually be a threat to democracy? Hmmm, I wonder...
 
Is it propaganda, or is it simply that a president who already tried to overthrow the government to stay in power might actually be a threat to democracy? Hmmm, I wonder...
The party the believes that the first amendment is a "roadblock" to their policies and supports the idea of mandatory weapon buybacks thinks that orange man is the threat to democracy. LMFAO.

You guys would gladly vote in Stalin if it meant avoiding four more years of Impotent Orange.
It would take time to move manufacturing, but if costs were to actually go up by nearly 50%, you best believe that corporations would be fast tracking moves to other countries that are exempt from said tariffs.

That said, I think there is a near zero chance these alleged tariffs would ever be implemented at the proposed rates.
At some point, you need to bite the proverbial bullet and fix a problem.

Will it cause huge economic issues? Yeah. But so does continuing to rely on a hostile world power to make all your stuff. And the longer this goes on, the more painful it will become. Almost every country we trade with has tariffs on our products, the only reason we dont is because sustaining low prices on consumer goods is the only palatable way to get americans to agree to gut their entire production workforce. And now the chickens are coming home to roost.

Much like continuing to raise rates, raising tariffs on products made overseas will be a necessary step, and one that will have worse effects the longer we wait to do it.
 
The party the believes that the first amendment is a "roadblock" to their policies and supports the idea of mandatory weapon buybacks thinks that orange man is the threat to democracy. LMFAO.

You guys would gladly vote in Stalin if it meant avoiding four more years of Impotent Orange.
At some point, you need to bite the proverbial bullet and fix a problem.

Will it cause huge economic issues? Yeah. But so does continuing to rely on a hostile world power to make all your stuff. And the longer this goes on, the more painful it will become. Almost every country we trade with has tariffs on our products, the only reason we dont is because sustaining low prices on consumer goods is the only palatable way to get americans to agree to gut their entire production workforce. And now the chickens are coming home to roost.

Much like continuing to raise rates, raising tariffs on products made overseas will be a necessary step, and one that will have worse effects the longer we wait to do it.
Sure because limiting sales of weapons of war to civilians as an effort to curve school shootings is worse than ending American democracy. That's definitely how a reasonable person with no clear and obvious biases would think. /s
 
You don't need to be an economist or do any research to point this out, even if there were labor left over and pre-skilled for this, it would be much more expensive as everything produced in the US.

I don't like Biden, but it's hard to side with Trump when he comes up with self-destructive ideas. I'd say both sides are terrible options.
 
Funny, all these anti-Trump people typing their comments on computers made in China and driving EVs with Chinese batteries. They think that the Biden/Harris administration would keep your computer prices low. The US military under Biden is already gearing up for war with China, which would make most computer equipment ludicrously expensive.

I worked in industry from the 1970's. I saw first hand how the American elites gutted American industry. Bit by bit American industries moved offshore, or were sold to foreign interests. It was expedited by Congressional tax legislation. Clinton's pet project NAFTA allowed the creation of huge factories in Mexico. And so on.

One big problem is that the US Dollar is the world's reserve currency. It allows us to print enormous amounts of money and force the rest of the world to soak up the resulting inflation. We also use it to force sanctions on countries we don't like. However, it has lots of negative aspects for us. It makes it very easy for foreign interests to purchase American industries and also sell their products in the US. They have full access to American markets in ways that would not be possible otherwise.

You think it's bad now. China is gearing up to swamp the US with EV automobiles, aircraft, you name it. Then when BRICS becomes fully established, the US dollar will gradually lose reserve status, resulting in enormous inflationary pressure on the dollar.

So what do we do? It's impossible to fully take back the Dollar from world reserve status. So we need some kind of 'border control' over our currency. Tariffs may unfortunately be the only way to preserve key US industries.

Tariffs are a nasty remedy much like chemotherapy. They are a tax on the people; the government collects the tariff from its own people, not from the foreign corporations . So government must take the tariff money and incentivize local industry. All the tariff does is provide a temporary window of opportunity for the local industries to catch up. If local industry fails, then the tariff was a net negative.

I doubt any of this will work until Wokeism is defeated. Western Woke policy promotes on the basis of Woke ideology, not merit. It's an ideological parasite hanging around the neck of Western business. China, Russia and India don't have that problem.

Of course, a war with China is another way to create trade barriers.

Yes, most of my computer components are made in China.
 
Funny, all these anti-Trump people typing their comments on computers made in China and driving EVs with Chinese batteries. They think that the Biden/Harris administration would keep your computer prices low. The US military under Biden is already gearing up for war with China, which would make most computer equipment ludicrously expensive.

I worked in industry from the 1970's. I saw first hand how the American elites gutted American industry. Bit by bit American industries moved offshore, or were sold to foreign interests. It was expedited by Congressional tax legislation. Clinton's pet project NAFTA allowed the creation of huge factories in Mexico. And so on.

One big problem is that the US Dollar is the world's reserve currency. It allows us to print enormous amounts of money and force the rest of the world to soak up the resulting inflation. We also use it to force sanctions on countries we don't like. However, it has lots of negative aspects for us. It makes it very easy for foreign interests to purchase American industries and also sell their products in the US. They have full access to American markets in ways that would not be possible otherwise.

You think it's bad now. China is gearing up to swamp the US with EV automobiles, aircraft, you name it. Then when BRICS becomes fully established, the US dollar will gradually lose reserve status, resulting in enormous inflationary pressure on the dollar.

So what do we do? It's impossible to fully take back the Dollar from world reserve status. So we need some kind of 'border control' over our currency. Tariffs may unfortunately be the only way to preserve key US industries.

Tariffs are a nasty remedy much like chemotherapy. They are a tax on the people; the government collects the tariff from its own people, not from the foreign corporations . So government must take the tariff money and incentivize local industry. All the tariff does is provide a temporary window of opportunity for the local industries to catch up. If local industry fails, then the tariff was a net negative.

I doubt any of this will work until Wokeism is defeated. Western Woke policy promotes on the basis of Woke ideology, not merit. It's an ideological parasite hanging around the neck of Western business. China, Russia and India don't have that problem.

Of course, a war with China is another way to create trade barriers.

Yes, most of my computer components are made in China.
Tell me you don't understand how economics work without telling me you don't understand how economics work.

This is just conspiracy rambling.
 
Sure because limiting sales of weapons of war to civilians as an effort to curve school shootings is worse than ending American democracy. That's definitely how a reasonable person with no clear and obvious biases would think. /s

Most gun homicides are committed with pistols. Hardly a weapon of war.

Knives are actually a more dangerous weapon. They are more easily concealed and make no sound. That's why, In the US, it's possible to get a concealed carry permit for handguns but not for large knives.

UK banned guns. The criminals just shifted to knives.
 
Most gun homicides are committed with pistols. Hardly a weapon of war.

Knives are actually a more dangerous weapon. They are more easily concealed and make no sound. That's why, In the US, it's possible to get a concealed carry permit for handguns but not for large knives.

UK banned guns. The criminals just shifted to knives.
But not most school shootings, or mass shootings in general.

Far less people die as a result of being killed by a stranger in the UK.
 
Trump attended Wharton School of Finance and Commerce. So yes, he does know what a tariff is.
And yet his tariffs did absolutely nothing he claims they did.
They did the opposite because we all paid for them. Thats who pays for tariffs.
The proper use of the tariff is to drive up prices so high nobody buys the product.
Then nobody will want more sent here and the product line is dead in the US.
Opinions aside, trump blew it bad there.
If you (generally, not you personally) don't understand the basic facts of finance how can people be convinced they will work this time?
I worked in industry from the 1970's. I saw first hand how the American elites gutted American industry. Bit by bit American industries moved offshore, or were sold to foreign interests.
Honestly, I thought that mostly happened under President Bush Sr. with all that "New World Order" crap he was trying to sell. We lost a massive amount of manufacturing jobs in just that short time. But I'm not up on how actions in the 70s played out.
 
It is ok, depending on the final price. What is the price to keep production of the most crucial tech at home of our biggest and most dangerous rival? Everything, the price is everything.
 
Tariffs have there place. a lot of evidence PRC is directly subsidising it's EVs etc.
More so than the std high level on corporate welfare in The USA

To think Mega corps will bring jobs back is laughable, we saw them move to Mexico ,Vietnam, India etc

Usual one metric stupid thinking as well. You want a stable world, wholesale tariffs will be the anthesis
Same as climate change whine it's all fake yet then complain about the climate refugees that will come to better off countries

I can see why Musk is so excited, tariffs on competition , huge tax relieve , trillions more money printed into economy for taxpayer to pay off

In a stable world imports/exports assist everyone.

I just feel some love to see people suffering in other countries , as it makes them feel better, and their crow about their countries kindness for "gifts" of money with lots of constraints eg stop protecting women's productive health etc , lower pensions , sack 50% of govt work force, build this for us

Just a reminder intense dislike of The USA grew under Trump.Who likes insults, ruled by fear and hatred. yet he loved Saudi Arabia .Putin , Victor Orban and Kim

Anyway you get what you vote for

Most corporates want stability and have stated their preference
Suppose concept of plans is pretty good though

 
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