AMD's Ryzen 7 9800X3D is here, bringing powerful upgrades with 3D V-Cache tech and enhanced thermals. Without question, this is the best CPU released since the 7800X3D, making it a game-changer.
AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D Review: The New Gaming CPU King
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VemigoAmigo
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Impressive. Absolute gaming champ with headroom for even more performance.
Now with massively improved application performance over 7800X3D. No weak points left.
Performance is as expected and 5.2 GHz on all cores is very impressive, considering my 7800X3D can drop to 4.6 in some demanding games and workloads. 2nd gen 3D cache is a gamechanger for clockspeed.
Now with massively improved application performance over 7800X3D. No weak points left.
Performance is as expected and 5.2 GHz on all cores is very impressive, considering my 7800X3D can drop to 4.6 in some demanding games and workloads. 2nd gen 3D cache is a gamechanger for clockspeed.
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takaozo
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At least this time AMD didn't mess with the launch. Yep now bring on the heavy guns, aka Nvidia 5090.
Better than I expected. Hopefully prices go down.
winjer
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That is actually a great CPU for gaming. Very impressive.
dangh
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Great. now, I hope they will use this knowledge to improve their gpu family. I will buy new amd gpu next year and I know it wont be top of the line, but do hope it will get much better in next iteration.
airbornex
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11% boost sounds modest until you realize it’s an 11% boost on top of the lead AMD already has. Intel better get cozy in that rearview mirror!
Nice, I was one of those people that got the $340 7800X3D in August. This makes me really hopeful that I'll be able to upgrade on AM5 in the to a future series processor. No reason here for me to upgrade to the 9000 series, but hopefully the 10000 series will be a closer to a 30% uplift over the 7800X3D.
Rock Dirty
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Which will require it's own case with a 1000 watt power supply. It will com with a 3-foot ribbon cable to plug into your PCIE slot.
I am making this up.
Am I?
yRaz
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Since I've gone all in on Linux, AMD GPUs are my only option. Nvidia said they're going to work on improving their linux drivers but I'll believe it when I see. So, for the foreseeable future, AMD GPUs it is. Outside of Cyberpunk. I see raytracing as a disappointment but I do play lots of CP. Aside from that, get ~90fps is most games at 4k with my 6700xt. I'm hoping that the 8800XT will give 4080 levels of performance for ~$500. AMD doesn't need a flagship, they need a midranged monster.
dangh
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I'm in the same position and with 6900xt I'm still in a good place for gaming, but it is not always easy to drive my 1600p ultrawide. So I do hope some nice gain with the 8k series, I know this will be bit limited but I just dont want to invest now in 7900xtx. And looking for some gains in davinci resolve as well, even if it works really nicely in a distro box (to utilize better hardware acceleration). And yes, rt on AMD is not the best one, that one area 8k series promises some improvements.
MarcusNumb
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Now it's officially in my Christmas' wishlist. Hopefully my DH15 is enough for this king.
yRaz
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So then 7900xtx is.an interesting beast because it's a popular card for people who want to play with AI, but don't want to pay for a 4090 or a workstation card. So there is actually a lot of demand for those. The 7900xt, though, is a bargain relative to it. You lose about 10% the performance but they can be found for about 30% less than the XTX on sale fairly often
TempleOrion
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Yeah, that's not feasible for all sorts of financial, process, marketing and manufacturing reasons...
Please add Stellaris or Factorio to your testing! We, strategy gamers would like to know if it's any good for us and FPS count in shooter games doesn't tell us that.
brucek
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I understand why CPUs are tested this way, but can anyone help me understand the likely impact on a non-competitive gamer more oriented to visuals than frame rate? For example say a 4070 class card running high-ultra settings getting 60-90 fps. In this type of scenario where a lot of the bottleneck is going to be on the GPU, does this or any CPU continue to make a noticeable difference, or do the charts all compress to the point where all the CPUs get similar results?
If your GPU is at 99% no CPU, not even a 14950 X3d from the future can make it go faster. So 0 impact.
Burty117
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If the CPU can get 200fps in a game, but you play at higher resolutions and your GPU can only get 90fps, the CPU makes minimal difference, it can sometimes help with better minimum frames and less stuttering, but won’t help you get more than your current bottleneck being the GPU.
It does however, mean when you upgrade your GPU in the future, you won’t be bottlenecked by the CPU unless your new GPU can run over 200fps at the higher resolution.
Edit: Techspot did an article on exactly this not too long ago:
"CPUs Don't Matter For 4K Gaming"... Wrong!
Something we hear a lot is that CPU performance doesn't matter for 4K gaming. Without proper context, CPU benchmark data can be misinterpreted. Let us explain to...
www.techspot.com
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brucek
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Interesting, thanks for the response. So I'd take that advice to mean, check your GPU usage, and if it's mostly pegged at 99% you've got enough CPU, and if it's not, then you don't. I should probably start paying more detailed attention, but my general sense is that I'm usually not that high. On the other hand, my CPU is almost never near 99% either, certainly not as an all-core total, but I think usually not on any individual core either. Maybe platform bandwidth (not sure if that's the right word but I mean general ability to move data around the system) is a limiting factor?
Testing a major gaming CPU only @1080p is a farce, but I guess including other resolution would take a bit of shine off from that super duper amazing 11% uplift. Smh.
It's undeniably a great processor, but the X3D hype train is really off the charts. These are not cheap CPUs (especially if it's a new platform cost) and the real uplift only comes with a high-end card (and not always anyway) so it's not all that clear cut as these reviews suggest.
That's before we even get to the current CPU market situation which is ridiculous. I'm not saying it's exactly AMDs fault, but it just seems like the X3D chips are made of unobtainium. The new one costs an arm and leg, and the old ones either also paradoxically do, or are just unavailable.
Bitd it was normal that appearance of a new hardware will bring prices of older stuff down, but it's just not happening anymore. Also, a reasonable 2nd hand market seems to have evaporated.
It's undeniably a great processor, but the X3D hype train is really off the charts. These are not cheap CPUs (especially if it's a new platform cost) and the real uplift only comes with a high-end card (and not always anyway) so it's not all that clear cut as these reviews suggest.
That's before we even get to the current CPU market situation which is ridiculous. I'm not saying it's exactly AMDs fault, but it just seems like the X3D chips are made of unobtainium. The new one costs an arm and leg, and the old ones either also paradoxically do, or are just unavailable.
Bitd it was normal that appearance of a new hardware will bring prices of older stuff down, but it's just not happening anymore. Also, a reasonable 2nd hand market seems to have evaporated.
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