AMD X870/X870E Motherboard Roundup: 21 Motherboards Tested

I stopped reading at "The most affordable X870E model is the Gigabyte X870E Aorus Elite WiFi7, priced at $320."
 
This was an amazing review thanks!

Disappointed in the cost of these boards. Hopefully the overprice on release and cut cost for the holidays will prevail. AMD used to be the "economical" solution, but I guess they don't need to be any more given Intel's struggles. Ugh.
 
This was an amazing review thanks!

Disappointed in the cost of these boards. Hopefully the overprice on release and cut cost for the holidays will prevail. AMD used to be the "economical" solution, but I guess they don't need to be any more given Intel's struggles. Ugh.
Yeah, AMD should stop manufacturing motherboards ASAP. Leave it for companies like Asrock, Asus, Gigabyte and MSI.
 
These mobos are twice the price of a cutting edge mobo 12-15 years ago. Too expensive. But, I'm sure the price will drop some when they start collecting dust in storage. I built an i7 Intel computer back in 2007 and used it until earlier this year (17 years). Built a Ryzen 5/B450 box a few months ago to replace it. With a used GeForce GTX 750 Ti graphics card and a MSI B450 mobo, the whole thing cost around $650. Now, that's just the cost of the mobo and a CPU. I doubt I'll be using this AMD box for 17 years. But, I can used it long enough to wait for the clearance sale on these expensive boards I build my next one.
 
Really appreciate this in depth testing! For years, motherboard shopping was all about gambling based on listed specs and hoping Amazon reviews were accurate (they are usually not).
Also oof, the MSI Tomahawk here was looking great until the sound section. I wish I had some context and understanding of how bad that actually is. Is it something I'd notice on my SHP9500s with significant hearing loss in my left ear or are all of these totally fine unless you're going all-out on a setup? And by that point, wouldn't you want a DAC anyway?
 
As an owner of an MSI ACE X670-E motherboard, these prices are cheaper than mine was when I bought it. Mine was $700!!!
 
These mobos are twice the price of a cutting edge mobo 12-15 years ago. Too expensive. But, I'm sure the price will drop some when they start collecting dust in storage. I built an i7 Intel computer back in 2007 and used it until earlier this year (17 years). Built a Ryzen 5/B450 box a few months ago to replace it. With a used GeForce GTX 750 Ti graphics card and a MSI B450 mobo, the whole thing cost around $650. Now, that's just the cost of the mobo and a CPU. I doubt I'll be using this AMD box for 17 years. But, I can used it long enough to wait for the clearance sale on these expensive boards I build my next one.

But this is a review of new motherboards, not outdated & used stuff.

So saddening that you bought outdated hardware (few months ago) that is nearly worthless... when you could've just bought a new APU system with superior modern graphics & compute.


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Nice roundup, thank you.

I appreciate the audio benchmarks.

I have these suggestions to make:

- Specify the electric contacts on the PCIe x16 slots. Usually only one is a true x16 slot and the rest is unknown (unless you go to each motherboard's website and check the specs).

- Put as much data on a CSV file that we can download to make our own comparisons.
 
- Specify the electric contacts on the PCIe x16 slots. Usually only one is a true x16 slot and the rest is unknown (unless you go to each motherboard's website and check the specs).
They did that? They even explain what ones are on or off depending on M.2 slot usage?
 
I find it unreal that motherboards with only 2 SATA ports sell for $250 to $450! This must be a precedent in the whole history of computing!
 
Thanks for the comprehensive review. However, you left some important things out. For one, Taichi has a VRM fan and heatsinks. Does anyone else do that?

Taichi also has M.2 heatsinks at top and bottom. This is pretty important these days. There is no mention of heatsinks in your reviews. Perhaps you could add that.
 
These mobos are twice the price of a cutting edge mobo 12-15 years ago. Too expensive. But, I'm sure the price will drop some when they start collecting dust in storage. I built an i7 Intel computer back in 2007 and used it until earlier this year (17 years). Built a Ryzen 5/B450 box a few months ago to replace it. With a used GeForce GTX 750 Ti graphics card and a MSI B450 mobo, the whole thing cost around $650. Now, that's just the cost of the mobo and a CPU. I doubt I'll be using this AMD box for 17 years. But, I can used it long enough to wait for the clearance sale on these expensive boards I build my next one.

47% inflation over the past 15 years. So not really twice the price... but yes, too expensive.
 
Why are you writing your assertions as questions?

Can you please point me to where they did what I'm asking for?
I stand corrected, they only mentioned it on the interesting boards:
Asus Prime X870-P WiFi
It's interesting because it's one of the few boards that includes four PCIe x16 slots, although only the primary slot is wired for x16 bandwidth, with the others limited to x1.

Asus ProArt X870E-Creator WiFi
can split the CPU's PCIe x16 lanes between the primary and secondary PCIe x16 slots for an x8/x8 configuration. There's also a third PCIe x16 slot wired for up to x4 bandwidth.

Gigabyte X870E Aorus Elite WiFi7

The X870E model gets extra PCIe lanes from the second chipset, meaning the secondary PCIe x16 slot can always be used. On the non-E X870 Aorus Elite, this slot shares bandwidth with the fourth M.2 slot, so if the M.2 is in use, the secondary PCIe x16 slot is disabled.

But you're right, there's boards here where that info of how they're wired up would be useful, like the MSI Pro X870-P WiFi:
"It also comes with four PCIe x16 slots" But as we all know, they can't all be wired up for x16 links.
Which after Googling it, a couple of those slots are x1 PCI-E 3.0 only.

So agreed, they should add those details in better than sometimes listing it one of the paragraphs and sometimes not.
 
Seems weird to not mention the SlimSAS connector on the Crosshair...
Definitely, first time I've seen that on a consumer device, usually on server these days so you can feed a pcie ssd backplane with data (or occasionally oculink), useful as you can break it out into sas / sata as well as its basically a pcie carrier to my understanding (though I bet it steals lanes from an m.2 or one of the pcie slots)
 
I stand corrected,

So agreed, they should add those details in better than sometimes listing it one of the paragraphs and sometimes not.

Yes, I was tempted by the Asrock Nova for its ECC support and permanent x16 GPU slot, but then I realised there's no PCIe slot wired for x4, which I have a use for. So the MSI Carbon is looking like the best choice for me.

It's these sorts of consideration that often supercede performance charts.
 
Bro, you made my day with this reply lol lol lol xD

Really dumb/toxic reply from both of you. It's obvious the person is talking about the total cost of AMD builds vs. Intel so there is nothing wrong with what they said.

I'm way more disappointed in lack of micro-ATX (mATX), zero interest in building a giant ATX PC, an AP201 is as big as I'd go these days. Also Boot times still being oddly long for some of them.
 
Absolutely would look forward to a buying guide. I've got to wait for an iTX model.
Thanks for the great reviews.
 
"The most affordable X870E model is the Gigabyte X870E Aorus Elite WiFi7, priced at $320. In comparison, the most expensive X670E board, the Asrock X670E PG Lighting, costs just $200"

I don't understand the last phrase, in particular "the most expensive X670E board, the Asrock X670E PG Lighting" part.
 
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