AMD confirms one Ryzen 9000X3D CPU arrives on November 7

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What just happened? AMD has just "announced" that at least one Ryzen 9000X3D processor will be available in a few weeks on November 7. However, this is more a teaser, likely aimed at stealing some of the thunder from Intel's Arrow Lake launch this week as AMD hasn't provided specifications, pricing, performance claims, or even confirmed the CPU's name or model.

If you were hoping to learn more about Zen 5 X3D parts, I'm sorry to disappoint. But we'll walk you through the few details we have and the potential reasons for this kind of soft announcement.

AMD shared a single slide about this launch as shown above. That's it – everything we know is on this one slide, which AMD described as a teaser. Aside from the November release date, the slide provides no additional details.

The CPU in question is most likely the Ryzen 7 9800X3D, though we can't be certain. It could be the 9700X3D or something else entirely. However, based on various sources over the last few months, the 9800X3D was expected to launch in early November, with higher-core models potentially arriving a couple of months later, possibly in early 2025. This announcement aligns with our expectations for the 9800X3D's release timing.

There's no point speculating on the specifications because we simply don't know. AMD also hasn't provided any pricing information, which I suspect will be revealed closer to the release date to coincide with reviews.

One trend we've noticed over the past few months is that the Ryzen 7 7800X3D has become more expensive and harder to find. Pricing and availability were stable around $360 to $370 until late August, but since then, the price has gradually increased, and it's now unavailable at many retailers. In my opinion, this is a calculated move by AMD to discontinue the 7800X3D and clear the market for the 9800X3D. The last thing AMD wants is for the 7800X3D to compete with the new model, potentially offering better value and leading to negative comparisons for the Zen 5 version. If the old model is unavailable, the choice becomes simpler for consumers.

This leads us to believe that AMD may price the 9800X3D similarly to the 7800X3D, rather than pursuing a value strategy. Again, this is not confirmed, but if it retains the title of the fastest gaming processor, launching at a lower price point seems unlikely.

So why has AMD chosen this announcement strategy? The first reason is obvious: to steal Intel's thunder, and second, to avoid the pitfalls they encountered with the first wave of Zen 5 CPUs.

With Intel's Arrow Lake desktop launch and reviews coming later this week, AMD wants to remind you that a successor to their top gaming CPU is on the way soon. They want to plant some doubt when you consider Arrow Lake's performance – whether it makes sense to buy an Intel CPU now or wait just a few weeks for AMD's offering.

By holding back specifics, AMD is building up anticipation for the X3D, encouraging gamers to hold off on jumping onto the Arrow Lake bandwagon. It makes sense to wait just two weeks to see what the 9800X3D brings if you're focused on gaming performance.

Additionally, AMD likely wants to avoid the mistakes made during the Zen 5 launch, where early information exaggerated the performance gains, particularly for gamers. If AMD can't deliver a notable improvement, they prefer to avoid making any misleading claims, as that would only create false expectations. Letting reviews do the talking might be the best approach in this case.

However, if the Zen 5 X3D were significantly more powerful, I would expect AMD to hype it before Intel's next-gen CPU launch. Based on what we've seen so far, I would be surprised if the performance uplift differs much from what we saw with Zen 5 versus Zen 4 CPUs, where gaming performance only improved by a few percentage points. I'm hoping for a bigger leap, but there hasn't been any strong indication of that so far.

AMD also announced new limited-time "early holiday promotional pricing" for existing Ryzen 9000 CPUs. This includes up to a $50 discount on the Ryzen 9 9950X, bringing it down to $600, and up to a $30 discount on other models. For example, the 9900X will be priced at $470, the 9700X at $330, and the 9600X at $250. However, this is not a permanent price cut but a temporary promotion aimed at countering Intel's Arrow Lake launch.

That said, these discounts aren't a drastic change from current pricing in the US retail market. The Ryzen 7 9700X had already dropped to $330 by late September, and the 9900X has been selling below MSRP for some time, even hitting $430, which is lower than the new "discounted" price. The 9600X and 9950X are likely to see the most benefit from these promotions.

That's all the information we have for now, but you can look forward to our Intel Lake-S CPU review later this week.

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"Next gen" with, what, 10% more performance than the 7800x3d? Not much to get excited about.
 
The pricing war this time would be interesting since AMD has 2 weeks to evaluate Arrow Lake's perf to set a competitive price for the X3D series. Anw, I don't expect much from AMD since they have f***** up so many times before. A safe bet would be the same price as the 7800x3d MSRP, and the unrealistic dream price would be 30-50usd/euros less xD
 
Intel officially already said 285k will not be able to beat 7800XD in gaming.
9800XD looks to get 900mhz higher base clock and 200mhz higher boost vs 7800X3D.

 
Even with V-Cache, $450 is too much for an 8 core CPU. The 7800X3D dropped to around $360 pretty quickly if I recall and I was able to get one for $340. But at $450-$480, I would definitely buy the 7700X which is only $280 at the moment, at the time a bought the 7800X3D the 7700X was still $320, so the X3D part was a no-brainer. Had it been $280 I might have gone with the 7700X even then.
 
The pricing war this time would be interesting since AMD has 2 weeks to evaluate Arrow Lake's perf to set a competitive price for the X3D series. Anw, I don't expect much from AMD since they have f***** up so many times before. A safe bet would be the same price as the 7800x3d MSRP, and the unrealistic dream price would be 30-50usd/euros less xD
The 7800X3D dropped $90 in price and was more often available at that price than not until just recently. AMD will most certainly price the 9800X3D at $450 or even more, but once those initial sales slow I would be willing to bet you'll be able to get it for $399 before the Holidays and <$380 by March of next year.
 
Even with V-Cache, $450 is too much for an 8 core CPU. The 7800X3D dropped to around $360 pretty quickly if I recall and I was able to get one for $340.

Aye, when it comes to the latest hot gaming thing, these days there's always an early adopter/hype tax to be factored in..
 
Yes, absolutely! Early adopters often pay a premium price, whether it's for new gaming consoles, graphics cards, or even popular game releases. There's the "hype tax" where you're paying more just to be among the first to experience something new, and often, it comes with bugs or missing features that get fixed later. It's a trade-off between being ahead of the curve versus waiting for better deals or a more polished experience!
 
Probably worth AMD being feely aggressive, as needs to reward partners to sell the newer motherboards after lacklustre sales

Just remember most top CPUs are good enough for most gamers that play in 1440p or 4K
Think so easy to continue to forget this , these are mainly for FPS etc ran at 1080p

Plus if your monitor tops out at 144hrtz the 170fps or 175fps is moot
 
Looking forward to seeing how AMD drop the ball this time. Probably ludicrous pricing on the 9800X3D and broken drivers.
 
I learned an expensive way and don't want an AMD platform. No matter what the graphs say, it is better than Intel. Here is why

The AMD software/drivers are very bad. I have micro stutters on all games. Random crashes with AMD graphics cards, and some random issues with a lot of software just for no reason.

I had 3950x with AMD GPU and Asus motherboard; 3950x with NVIDIA GPU Asus motherboard/MSI motherboard; 5950x with NVIDIA GPU Asus mb; 10900k with Asus mb, 14900k with Asus/MSI mb and now I have 7800x3d on MSI x870e mb with 4090 RTX. My brother has 5800x3d on Asus with 4090.

All, I swear to God, all AMD rigs had/have micro stutters in games. Fresh Windows install, latest drivers, latest BIOS. I have tried every possible solution on the internet to fix it. Doesn't matter. Plus I have ALT+TAB lag with a black screen for 2-3 sec when doing in the game. My iCUE software crashes at the start of the system, occasional sound lag for a fraction of a second (it is very annoying), etc.

When I use/used the Intel platform it works out of the box, I don't need to fix anything. Random OS/Software crashes are gone, games work smoothly, and ALT-TAB works instantly. No problem at all. But as you know 13th and 14th Intel gens are dying. My 14900k started to crash the system and I decided to give an AMD another chance... I was a fool to think AMD is better now. Right out of the box, I experienced the same problems I had all the time with AMD. I am waiting for the new Intel CPUs and switch the 1st day it will be available.

How is your experience with AMD? Am I that unlucky or is it bad like this for everyone?
 
I learned an expensive way and don't want an AMD platform. No matter what the graphs say, it is better than Intel. Here is why

The AMD software/drivers are very bad. I have micro stutters on all games. Random crashes with AMD graphics cards, and some random issues with a lot of software just for no reason.

I had 3950x with AMD GPU and Asus motherboard; 3950x with NVIDIA GPU Asus motherboard/MSI motherboard; 5950x with NVIDIA GPU Asus mb; 10900k with Asus mb, 14900k with Asus/MSI mb and now I have 7800x3d on MSI x870e mb with 4090 RTX. My brother has 5800x3d on Asus with 4090.

All, I swear to God, all AMD rigs had/have micro stutters in games. Fresh Windows install, latest drivers, latest BIOS. I have tried every possible solution on the internet to fix it. Doesn't matter. Plus I have ALT+TAB lag with a black screen for 2-3 sec when doing in the game. My iCUE software crashes at the start of the system, occasional sound lag for a fraction of a second (it is very annoying), etc.

When I use/used the Intel platform it works out of the box, I don't need to fix anything. Random OS/Software crashes are gone, games work smoothly, and ALT-TAB works instantly. No problem at all. But as you know 13th and 14th Intel gens are dying. My 14900k started to crash the system and I decided to give an AMD another chance... I was a fool to think AMD is better now. Right out of the box, I experienced the same problems I had all the time with AMD. I am waiting for the new Intel CPUs and switch the 1st day it will be available.

How is your experience with AMD? Am I that unlucky or is it bad like this for everyone?
Have been using AMD platform since K6 days. Never encountered serious problems like that.

Possible cause may be something that is partially broken. Memory, hard disk, motherboard... Not always software is one to blame.

At least some of those symptoms sound like HDD/SSD is broken.
 
Have been using AMD platform since K6 days. Never encountered serious problems like that.

Possible cause may be something that is partially broken. Memory, hard disk, motherboard... Not always software is one to blame.

At least some of those symptoms sound like HDD/SSD is broken.

All rigs had all new parts, MB, NVME SSD, GPU, RAM, CPU and from different vendors. I didn't use used parts. A couple of times I saved NVME SSD but it was in case I was changing from the AMD platform to Intel. And that NVMe was working fine.

Just to clarify the only thing that was the same between different rigs is the monitor Asus 3440x1440 144 MHz, actually two of them second one was 3440x1440 100 MHz from Alienware. Maybe people don't have this problem with regular monitors but I am not going back from 34 inch ultrawide screen.

Maybe on 30/60 FPS, you can't see those micro stutters, maybe the alt-tab experience is good on a 2440x1440 screen. I don't know.

One thing I can tell I don't have those problems with Intel+Nvidia. I really gave AMD more chances than anyone can do. We need healthy competition. But their GPUs are bad because games have constant problems and crushes. And CPU drivers are not stable and for some reason, I am experiencing those microstutters.
 
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I just "fixed" the issue with alt-tab lag! Found that AMD motherboards have a common problem with fTPM for 2 years at least. I turned off fTPM in the BIOS and the problem is gone. BUT I can't turn it of since League of Legends Vanguard required fTPM to work. In other words, I can't play LoL with turned fTPM. It confirms my issues with AMD they can't fix anything with their AGESA on a BIOS level. No more AMD for me. And I remember back in a day of 3950x rig I had they had an issue with AGESA that caused random crashes and only fixed it only after 6 months of knowing it...
 
If they really stop producing 7800X3D because the new one is not much of an upgrade, comparably, then it's a **** move.
 
I just "fixed" the issue with alt-tab lag! Found that AMD motherboards have a common problem with fTPM for 2 years at least. I turned off fTPM in the BIOS and the problem is gone. BUT I can't turn it of since League of Legends Vanguard required fTPM to work. In other words, I can't play LoL with turned fTPM. It confirms my issues with AMD they can't fix anything with their AGESA on a BIOS level. No more AMD for me. And I remember back in a day of 3950x rig I had they had an issue with AGESA that caused random crashes and only fixed it only after 6 months of knowing it...
Hard to say about that microstutter. But new parts may also be faulty at some way.

Haven't noticed fTPM bug, microstuttering or driver crashes with neither AM4 or AM5 platform myself. Also have used 144 Hz screen with both systems with two different AMD GPUs.

You said iCue? That's known to cause stutter on some systems. Basically, if stutter occurs on fresh Windows install with only absolutely necessary drivers installed, then it might be hardware and/or driver bug. Any installed software may cause all kinds of problems.
 
If they really stop producing 7800X3D because the new one is not much of an upgrade, comparably, then it's a **** move.
Why? How long AMD should produce 7800X3D? Upcoming "9800X3D" is obviously better and fits on same socket and motherboard, there is little reason to produce "worse" product too long since successor is basically 1:1 upgrade.
 
Why? How long AMD should produce 7800X3D? Upcoming "9800X3D" is obviously better and fits on same socket and motherboard, there is little reason to produce "worse" product too long since successor is basically 1:1 upgrade.
How do you know it is "obviously better" when all you get to go on is one slide?

If it really is so much better, then it'd sell no matter what. And they could discount 7800X3D and sell it to poors like me. But if it's as much as a damp squib as the rest of the 9xxx line, but priced again at 450 USD, then the only winner here will be AMD.
 
How do you know it is "obviously better" when all you get to go on is one slide?

If it really is so much better, then it'd sell no matter what. And they could discount 7800X3D and sell it to poors like me. But if it's as much as a damp squib as the rest of the 9xxx line, but priced again at 450 USD, then the only winner here will be AMD.
Because Zen5 is better architecture than Zen4, then "9800X3D" is better than 7800X3D unless AMD somehow mess up with 3D cache solution on "9800X3D". And that is very unlike to happen.

That's how market works. AMD is not doing charity.
 
Well, At least AMD learned their lessons somewhat. I can remember when the FX released and Hyped CMT over SMT. On paper CMT actually sounded like a good idea but practically it just fell flat on it's face and took them 7-8 years to recover and win back the communities trust. No launch is ever really perfect. The WoW effect of performance is long gone. Back in the 90s jumping from an 386sx 33mhz to a 486dx2 66mhz was a huge leap. Same with AMD FX to Ryzen or I3 to I7. Those days are gone mainly because 4k is GPU bound. If you play competitive games then yes, The performance is needed but it still isn't a WoW effect. The Average gamer won't notice the difference between 200fps and 250fps.
 
Well, At least AMD learned their lessons somewhat. I can remember when the FX released and Hyped CMT over SMT. On paper CMT actually sounded like a good idea but practically it just fell flat on it's face and took them 7-8 years to recover and win back the communities trust.
It's good to remember that Athlon64 architecture was complete around 1999 and Bulldozer somewhere around 2009. AMD surely didn't spend around 10 years just to design K10 and Bulldozer after that. At least one "K9" project was cancelled, probably three. CMT was backup plans backup plan at most.
 
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